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June 12th, 2007
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Baxil Death Watch, Day 3
After very brief recovery last night, GI tract is again in freefall. Struggled out of bed just long enough to realize there was no way in hell I could make it in to work today. Collapsed back in bed to concede defeat and the next time I managed to even so much as look up, half an hour had gone by.

Not even Gatorade is getting a pass -- small sips of ice water are all that stay in. That means it's doctor time.

Broke down sobbing when I realized this -- feeling very alone, useless, powerless. Ironically, that cheered me up immensely: One of the symptoms of severe dehydration is inability to produce tears while crying. So, as long as I can cry, I'm not dead yet.

Will report back in after the professionals patch me up.

Current Location: ~/bedroom
Current Mood: sicksick like a sick thing
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From:lupagreenwolf
Date:June 12th, 2007 07:10 pm (UTC)
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***hugs and healing***
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From:kshandra
Date:June 12th, 2007 07:25 pm (UTC)
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So, as long as I can cry, I'm not dead yet.

Large amounts of wry, bitter laughter from this corner of teh intarwebs.

Good luck.
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From:baxil
Date:June 13th, 2007 03:34 am (UTC)
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*hug* Thanks.
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From:elynne
Date:June 12th, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)
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Oh, jezus. Tell whatever doctor(s) looks at you that if they don't give you some better idea of what's going on than "dunno, tummy upset, take a couple of aspirin and drink some water" a very irate woman is going to sweep down from Seattle and kick the crap out of them.

*hughughughughughug* and I may have to steal that userpic.
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From:a_rowan_dryad
Date:June 12th, 2007 11:01 pm (UTC)
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Ditto...

Only I will swoop up from Southern CA... unless this happens again in a year or two and in that case I will be joining you in swoop down out of Seattle.
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From:elynne
Date:June 13th, 2007 12:44 am (UTC)
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ia Seattle! ;)
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From:a_rowan_dryad
Date:June 13th, 2007 01:01 am (UTC)
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I am planning to travel up that way to get a look about and make plans for moving in a year or two at the longest. May I contact you to get some info on the area (schools, cost of living and all that...)
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From:elynne
Date:June 13th, 2007 04:18 pm (UTC)
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Sure... I can be flaky about replies, and I don't have details of the rental market or anything, but I'd be happy to help with providing general information. :) I'll add you to my f'list and keep an eye on your posts.
From:antwondotcom
Date:June 12th, 2007 08:46 pm (UTC)
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Daaaaamn, Bax. Toss another wishing of wellness on the stack, and here's to hoping that The Powers That Be can come up with some sort of honest-to-gosh semi-legitimate diagnosis this time 'round....
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From:dogemperor
Date:June 12th, 2007 08:52 pm (UTC)
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*much well wishes and healing...*
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From:arkofeden
Date:June 12th, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC)
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Please don't die! The world still needs you! :(

I'm praying for your recovery too.

--E.G.
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From:circuit_four
Date:June 12th, 2007 10:12 pm (UTC)
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Aww, crap. Sending good thoughts, and thinking thru advice for doctor-wrangling if need be...
From:axonfuel
Date:June 12th, 2007 10:34 pm (UTC)
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What a year this has been for you. *hug*
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From:ceralor
Date:June 12th, 2007 11:04 pm (UTC)
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Eep!

I had some bad crap happen when I went down to the gulf coast to visit a wolf. He and I BOTH got something that lasted for days and had us both going quite often from both ends for a bit. Luckily, the one end for me ceased after the first time it happened, but the other kept. Bleh. Soreness.

But how long has this been going on? It was about 3 days overall for me.
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From:a_rowan_dryad
Date:June 13th, 2007 01:02 am (UTC)
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As terrible as this is about to sound being that is has nothing to do with Bax mutinous gut... but... I recognise that dragon you have as an icon. I just am blanking on where from. Help?
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From:ceralor
Date:June 13th, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
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Figment, from Disney World. I had a commission done with he and I in it, turning me into a much less weighty form *giggle*
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From:a_rowan_dryad
Date:June 13th, 2007 03:27 am (UTC)

ahhhh

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Ahhhh ok. I was thinking of a dragon from a D&D comic I think. Not sure. In anycase I think your figment is wonderful!
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From:roaminrob
Date:June 12th, 2007 11:37 pm (UTC)
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I would be fairly surprised if this turned out to be any kind of food allergy or lactose intolerance; AFAIK you haven't been lactose intolerant previously in adulthood, and while lactose intolerance can develop later in adulthood (as opposed to the ages of 9 to 10, where it's most common), it is generally unreported to have such an acute onset.

My money's on a subset of Irritable Bowel Syndrome -- specifically IBS-D, and even more specifically, IBS-PI (D). The fun part is that you'll get to be yet another data point for all of the gastroenterologists out there that're trying to figure out just what that thing is and what causes it.
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From:dogemperor
Date:June 13th, 2007 01:56 am (UTC)
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*nods* Agreed, lactose intolerance and celiac don't come on this sudden. (I myself am discovering the joys of lactose intolerance at age 30-ish, but then again I never much liked milk products and I do actually have (human body) heritage excuses :D)

With it coming out both ends (to the point it's clear) I'd almost be tempted to ask him if he'd been down to South America and caught the cholera or something :P
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From:roaminrob
Date:June 13th, 2007 03:21 am (UTC)
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I suspect we'll find that there's a slightly more delicate balance in the human digestive tract than may be popularly believed now. Not to say it's fragile, though.

This all first start with the bout of giardia picked up in the Southern California deserts. Based on Bax's description of it, it wasn't very pretty. That got followed up with a series of antibiotics targeted at the digestive tract, and then -- and my memory isn't too clear on this, but in some order -- it came back, got treated with another round of nuclear antibiotics, something else happened, took a round of other antibiotics, followed by correct antibiotics ...

There's a condition (which I also don't remember the name of) in which you develop too much bacteria in the gut, and it causes these symptoms. So, maybe those great antibiotic-triggered die-offs resulted in a kind of delayed bacterial flourish, and right now he's got a serious overpopulation problem in his poop tubes.

Just a wild guess from an uneducated hack.
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From:baxil
Date:June 14th, 2007 07:31 am (UTC)
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Brief timeline:

2006-06: Giardia (stomped flat by metronidazole within about a month)
Rest of 2006: Return from hike; no symptoms of intestinal issues

2007-01: Cat bite, general antibiotics
2007-02-01: Diarrhea symptoms; take loperamide; crap blood
2007-02: Eventually figure out that antibiotics #1 let c.diff take over my gut. Take two rounds of metronidazole (first one was aborted early due to actual test for c diff coming back negative; second one was taken because it was actually working, thankyewverymuch)

2007-spring: Gradual two-steps-forward, one-step-back recovery
2007-04 thru 06: at least three "relapses" seemingly unrelated to c.diff infection, the latest of which we are seeing here
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From:baxil
Date:June 14th, 2007 07:36 am (UTC)

also, re: "too much bacteria"

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There's a condition (which I also don't remember the name of) in which you develop too much bacteria in the gut, and it causes these symptoms.

You might be thinking of SBBOS. Symptoms broadly match, but I have none of the risk factors.

Either way, probiotics to try to whip things back into balance are really not a bad idea.
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From:baxil
Date:June 13th, 2007 03:27 am (UTC)
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Slight clarification: Problem is pass-through, not rebound. I can't keep anything down in the sense that it immediately flushes out. Only one incident of vomiting, Sunday, and that was due to the heat exhaustion mentioned in the first Monday post.

Doc did send me to get a blood test, tho, so hopefully we can rule out (or finger) Montezuma. ;-p
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From:dogemperor
Date:June 13th, 2007 04:34 am (UTC)
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Ah, thanks for the clarification. (Seriously, though, I do hope they do figure out what's off with the plumbing. As someone else suggested, you might have 'em see if there's something off kilter with your intestinal flora or something.)
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From:luna_torquill
Date:June 13th, 2007 05:27 am (UTC)
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As a data point: I've gotten that effect when a neurotoxin throws a monkey wrench into the works -- peristalsis kind of goes by the wayside, and I suspected some temporary smooth muscle paralysis at the time. (First time was a spider bite from the widow family, second time was Stachybotrys exposure). It is, unfortunately, very hard to detect an interruption in the nerve signals to the gut, but it may be something else to consider, whatever the cause.

Once you can keep anything down, I would second the recommendation for taking probiotics on a regular basis. If nothing else, they can't hurt.
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From:baxil
Date:June 14th, 2007 06:58 am (UTC)
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Thanks for the data and the advice. Probiotics are a very good idea, yes; heaven knows what all this up-and-down-and-three-days-of-starvation is doing to my little bacterial helpers.
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From:baxil
Date:June 14th, 2007 07:23 am (UTC)
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Frankly, after reading up on IBS-PI, that's starting to sound scarily accurate for such a nebulous diagnostic category. Too many boxes check.

Although, of the three (four?) times this has happened to me out of the blue since recovering from c.diff (the other two were by no means so severe), two (three?) were preceded the night before by generous servings of dairy, and the other one was me eating a burger charbroiled to charcoal (which was stupid and probably could have done it to anyone). There may be some interplay going on.
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From:luna_torquill
Date:June 13th, 2007 01:51 am (UTC)
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Good luck.

I do hope that the doctors look at things other than acute problems -- this is looking like a chronic issue, and while I agree with roaminrob that it's unlikely to be a lactose issue (milk allergy is a different question), there's a host of things that could cause this. It's an unusual presentation for celiac disease, but someone needs to rule out Crohn's, for example...

I wish you had better health coverage (I so agree with the tag) and a curious doctor. As with my issues, the best two traits in your doctors right now would be sympathy and a love of puzzles. I hope you find someone who can help.
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From:baxil
Date:June 13th, 2007 03:30 am (UTC)
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Paging Gregory House ...

seriously, I'd even put up with his acerbic wit right now in exchange for his diagnostic brilliance.
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From:a_rowan_dryad
Date:June 13th, 2007 04:41 am (UTC)
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LOL - if only that were possible!
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From:luna_torquill
Date:June 13th, 2007 05:28 am (UTC)
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Ah, but would you put up with him half-killing you with his first three erroneous guesses?
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From:lonita
Date:June 13th, 2007 05:45 am (UTC)
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Warm thoughts, brother. Will think good things for you.
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From:kistaro
Date:June 13th, 2007 06:44 am (UTC)
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I have copied the healing construct I built for myself years ago (and usually just have on standby!) and sent it after you, with instructions to immediately set you as its owner (with permission to rewrite programming) once it gets to you; if it reaches shielding blocking it, it will knock on it and then wait politely, so you may need to let it in.

As with all my constructs more than a few weeks old, it's everything but the astral kitchen sink, and I hope it (plus the large quantity of energy I provided it- I'm about to go to bed, I don't need more for today) does you some good.

Among its features are to send suggestions your way if it has useful ideas about physical things you should be doing, as well as to help (in that undefined energy-magic way) any and all medical professionals you work with miraculously stumble upon exactly the right information and the right thing to do, and discover it for what it is or at least make the right guess. (And, of course, to do what it can to increase the odds you will indeed meet those medical professionals.)

Best of luck with things. I've had severe digestive problems before (irritable bowel syndrome runs in my family), but you're setting some sorta record I hope I never come close to achieving.
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From:baxil
Date:June 14th, 2007 07:06 am (UTC)
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Many thanks. The house spirits intercepted it soon after you sent it (is your "wait politely" its generic programming or a special case? it offered no resistance at all, and if you plan on doing more work in the "kitchen sink" department you might want to look into that), but I cleared it with 'em and set it to work on an analysis and generic-improve-things loop last night. Definitely felt it this morning along with the meds.

If you get a chance, catch me on IM or e-mail -- we can go over the woo-woo stuff in a little more depth, and I'd like to pester you re: IBS.
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From:kistaro
Date:June 14th, 2007 07:27 am (UTC)
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I'm a computer programmer; of course I believe in generic reusable code! Anything I send to someone else gets a similar instruction set for "ask politely, then immediately desist" upon encountering any interference from the person, a construct of that person, or a friend of that person (whether physically incarnate or not) and cooperate with any analyses performed- by the (newly) targeted owner and the aforementioned friends.

It's the absolute most cooperative programming it can have with regard to being rerouted or blocked, and I chose it because I couldn't clear it with you ahead of time. (You were expecting energy, not a small astral robot!) It is nowhere near as cooperative to requests that do not come from you; its programming in those cases is to politely reject those requests while trying to alert your shielding. (It's not a defensive device itself, so it takes no other action. It will deactivate, deprogram, and disperse itself if it feels like it's getting successfully attacked- all of this is standard, at least as far as I am concerned.)

Also, I made it self-documenting, so if you're well enough to do so, feel free to ask it questions directly- it's more accurate than the average Windows help file! *grin*

And sure, I'd be glad to discuss this in more detail (yay magic geekery) but not right now. Right now is 2:21 AM and the next statement in my own program is goto bed;, which (ignoring the terrible style invovled with using a goto in a C-like language, as made obvious by the semicolon) seems like a good idea to me and I'll set my PDA to remind me in the morning. Or at least the early afternoon, which, with my sleep schedule, is like morning.

PDAs and astral healing robots... I guess I'm the gadget-intensive sort all around!

Anyway, glad it seems to have worked for you. The plural of "anecdote" is not "data", but I think I've been doing well with mine- no baseline to compare it with for standard illnesses, because I've had it enabled for the last several years, but after my dental appointment six months ago I assigned it to also defend my teeth extremely aggressively. No change in dental habits, and yesterday the dentist told me that- other than the decay first detected a year ago that, with aggressive flouride use, has been repairing itself slowly- my teeth are in the best shape they've been in years and I've obviously somehow dramatically improved my dental hygiene.

Statistically or scientifically useful? No; with no baseline and control it falls somewhere between "useless" and "rubbish". The beginning of an interesting pattern? But of course...
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From:baxil
Date:June 14th, 2007 07:44 am (UTC)
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Read and noted. And, you know, Goto Considered Harmful and all that, but I think "goto bed" merits an exception. ;)

Statistically or scientifically useful?

I'm so tempted to cite Weil's rule on wrongly stated hypotheses ... argh. Temptation too strong:

Statistically or scientifically useful?

There you go, fixed. ]B=8D
From:lhexa
Date:June 13th, 2007 04:11 pm (UTC)
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I hope they figure this out.
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From:kevynjacobs
Date:June 13th, 2007 05:28 pm (UTC)
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Get well soon!
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From:gchpaco
Date:June 14th, 2007 06:23 am (UTC)
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Gaaah. I hope you get better soon, yikes.
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From:baxil
Date:June 14th, 2007 06:56 am (UTC)
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