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November 17th, 2004
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Some forward thinking
After November dies down -- and I finish getting the tlands.org administrative stuff worked out with Aeto -- I've been thinking of getting a wiki launched for The Tomorrowlands Universe. It just seems like the best way to ask and answer questions about specific setting elements, generate discussion, and allow people a place to easily link, comment on, and rate stories.

Anyone have experience with running a wiki? Any recommendations for software? My criteria are pretty simple: Ease of use and installation; and some sort of version control, where I (and hopefully a few other users, if it supports logins) can have administrative privileges, able to lock pages against trolls and roll back malicious changes. E-mailed notification of changes would be a nice perk but not at all necessary.

Current NaNoWriMo word count: 30,849
Current NaNoWriMo rank (based on word count): 1,411 out of 41,601

Current Mood: busybusy
Current Music: Flight 16, "Snap"

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From:freso
Date:November 17th, 2004 11:53 pm (UTC)

MediaWiki

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I'm personally going to install MediaWiki for the Danish GNU (and a lot of other OpenSource software, really) localisation/translation group (which is going to host Danish LiveJournal translation stuff too). It's what's being used for all of WikiMedia's sites, including Wikipedia and Wiktionary. Which are also prime examples of their use. =) It requires PHP and MySQL, but I don't think it should be terribly hard to set up once you've got those two (if you haven't already got them :p).

And as I said, I'm going to install it myself on a remote server, so feel free to get in touch (e-mail) if you want to discuss or have trouble setting it up. Perhaps I've already been there. Or perhaps we can help each other out! =)

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From:mithent
Date:November 18th, 2004 12:55 pm (UTC)

Re: MediaWiki

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I'd like to add my recommendation for MediaWiki as well. It's a very nice piece of software from my end-user perspective. A wiki I did some work on was originally running on 'Tavi, but met scalability issues and moved to MediaWiki.
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From:gchpaco
Date:November 18th, 2004 06:15 pm (UTC)
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The simple wikis are pretty easy: I used to use MoinMoin and PikiPiki a while back. TWiki is ridiculously complicated for no great benefit as far as I can tell.

As far as new stuff goes, I gotta admit MediaWiki looks really impressive; I particularly like their ability to handle math, as that was something I tried to add to MoinMoin and abandoned a while back.

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From:shatterstripes
Date:November 19th, 2004 12:51 am (UTC)
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The Puzzlebox wiki runs on UseMod, with a few patches - one to require logins to edit pages (while the "Wiki Way" is that anyone and everyone can edit, the reality is that this lets spam-bots go wild), one to politely ask robots not to follow diff/old version links, and a few other things, including some of my own hacks.

There's an admin password to let you delete and lock pages. Out of the box, it also has the option of an "editing password" that people have to put in before they can edit the thing.

Most wikis keep an archive of the old versions of stuff, and make it easy to roll things back. UseMod does; pretty much every wiki engine seems to nowadays.

It was pretty damn easy to get running.
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From:baxil
Date:December 1st, 2004 04:20 am (UTC)
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Would you be willing, actually, to sling me a copy of the PBX-modified code? I tried surfing through the UseMod wiki to figure out how I would need to patch it to get similar functionality, and it left me with a headache. >_< Having the login/password stuff pre-installed, especially (standard wiki logins and passwords seem to be completely dissociated? Anyone can log in as anyone?!) and then just needing to config the script to my site (changing the PERL path, etc) would be a lot less brain-freezy than starting from scratch and learning the code inside out as I try to get it running exactly to spec.

(Are you running on a patched UseMod 0.9 or a patched UseMod 1.0?)

I'm probably going to go with a UseMod-based solution, because knowing PERL and being able to tinker under the hood as needed is attractive, and it seems pretty feature-complete.
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From:baxil
Date:December 1st, 2004 04:35 am (UTC)
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