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November 10th, 2004
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Sleep deprivation case study #1109-b
Good day, o people inhabiting the land of "free time"! It is I, your humble expatriate, sending a missive home from deep in the wilds of Nanowritania. I have so far hacked through some 16,000 vines on my path to the Ancient Temple of Novel-Ra, and it looks like there's a way to go yet. Blast these ancient temples and their near-mythical middle-of-nowhereness.

Truth be told, my native guides have posed me a few questions on my journey. I'm a bit too busy fending off the Plotbeasts and Continuity Ravens to really sit down and give them much thought, but as it turns out, I have discoverifically discovered a tremendous new ... discovery ... which I am certain will revolutionize the world upon my safe return.

I refer to the awesome power of ... DISTRIBUTED RESEARCH! dun dun duuuuuun

But do not worry, oh scared and fearful citizens of the Internets, for I swear I shall use these mighty powers for grood. Or for awesome!

And you can help me in my endeavours, by answering one or more of these few simple queries ...:

(1) Here is a party game: A bunch of people sit in a circle with drinks. In turn, they each say some statement such as "I've never made love outside." All the innocent people for whom that is true do nothing. The people for whom it is false take a drink. (This may include the person saying the line!) What is this game called?

(2) Name, and give the ingredients for, a few simple mixed drinks that do not taste like ass when made with the cheapest available liquor of the appropriate type. For extra credit, name a cheap or cheapish beer you would not be embarrassed to drink at a party. My characters may be college students, but they have some self-respect. (n.b.: Story setting is Seattle, 1996. Microbrews or regional beers are OK but only if they wouldn't be anachronisms.)

(3) You are a lit-crit major planning an essay on how the semiotic frameworks of various TV pundits' stated religions contribute to the formation of their eschatological views following a culturally traumatic event. Whose works and/or theories would you cite in support of your thesis? And if "semiotic frameworks" is (as I expect) a non-optimal term for the concept I'm driving at, what phrase should I use instead?

(4) How long will it take for queenofstripes to jump all over (3)? ;-)

(5) Name one scene in the movie "Jerry Maguire" that is especially moving. Extra double bonus points if it has something to do with being true to yourself or tremendous self-sacrifice in support of your ideals.

(6) Name one book that you read for high school-level English that you actually enjoyed. Why?

Any and all answers will be used to improve the quality of my NaNoWriMo novel, the link to which I have very sneakily inserted right into this here Livejournal sometime this month!

I know that I was being sneaky because <3 people have found it so far. Wait. < or = to 2, I mean. While I do know a few heart-people, most of them try to stay inside their respective chests.

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Date:November 10th, 2004 04:19 am (UTC)
<3s are people too. :(
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Date:November 10th, 2004 05:37 am (UTC)
I think #1 is called "I Never."
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Date:November 10th, 2004 06:37 am (UTC)
Yep, that's what we called it. :)
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Date:November 10th, 2004 06:45 am (UTC)
The questions all baffle me! o_o

Except.. high-skool English.. let me think.. uhhmm.. *thinkthink* Do plays count? I reeaaally liked Phantom of the Opera. That was a book too but I read it out of class, not for class :D; The reason I liked it was because of the dark spookiness and because the teacher's really imaginative lectures just sparked EVERYONE'S interest.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 07:05 am (UTC)
4. Postvixen will probably take an hour. At the earliest.

6. Any one of john Updike's books... probably In the Beauty of the Lilies .

And I found the link... not so hidden... but then, you can't do much when you can only edit your _________ but not the true source code.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 07:06 am (UTC)
Curses! Only a 10000 word view limit! ... Seems shorter than 10000 words should seem.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 07:09 am (UTC)
"Grood!" That made me laugh a lot.

2. Cheap vodka goes with just about anything, except Kool-Aid. Cheap rum goes OK with Kool-Aid (about as well as cheap rum goes with anything, which is to say "bleah"). Gin is rewarding, for those willing to drink it, and not too nasty with either spritzer water (which is insanely cheap because it's seriously nasty) and a spritz of lemon juice, or Mt. Dew. Vodka and Mt. Dew is referred to as a "Dewdriver," BTW. Vodka + OJ = screwdriver; vodka + milk = white Russian; vodka + coffee = "Irish creme", or more accurately "Even the irish wouldn't drink this"; vodka + Coke = highly dangerous. I can't help you with cheap tequila drinks, because I hate it. Cheap whiskey is also often mixed with sodas, to cut the aftershave taste. For the truly desperate digging through the back of the liquor cabinet for anything with alcohol in it, Jaegermeister (nasty with everything, or alone); cheap wine (a favorite when the liquor stores in Washington are closed); Goldschlager (I'm sorry, it's nasty!).

Beer... hm. Samuel Adams, Pyramid Ale, um... Red Hook is right on the edge of self-respect. Guinness isn't cheap, but it has a strong enough kick that it makes up in impact for what it loses in volume. Surprisingly, for being bottom-of-the-barrel cheap, Mickey's is rather tasty.

3. uh... beer?

4. Depends, when does he wake up?

5. Haven't seen it, wouldn't know.

6. Uh... hm. Heh, I can remember all the ones I didn't like easily enough. No, really, I can't think of any. All the ones I liked that should have been taught in class I read on my own (1984, Brave New World, Watership Down), and the ones that were taught in class were generally *pfft* (The Scarlet Letter, Catcher in the Rye, The Old Man and the Sea). Oh, I did kind of like The Crucible, the story about the Salem witch trials... I'm not sure why, other than maybe it was better quality than most of the other stories we read.

Now I'll have to hunt around in your journal until I find the link to your NaNoWriMo. :P Sneaky dragon!
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Date:November 10th, 2004 07:19 am (UTC)
Can't find link... argh! (unless you mean that tiny tantalizing excerpt on your NaNoWriMo bio, which doesn't count dammit)
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Date:November 10th, 2004 09:34 am (UTC)

Cheap Drinks

Generic formula 1:
Strong, sweet & acidic + (non-dairy) alcohol
* sours - Choice of alcohol and add collins or sweet & sour mix (Usually whiskey)
* and coke - Choice of alcohol and coke (Rum and Coke)
* popper - Choice of alcohol & 7up (Tequilla poppers are popular)
margarita (tequilla)/kamikaze (vodka)/daiquiri (rum)- Acidic fruit (bannana, strawberry, lime, lemon...) sugar & alcohol.
Long Island Iced Tea - Take some of every clear white alcohol that is available, add sweet&sour/lemon mix, and fill glass with coke.

I expect that college students drinking hard liquor are going to take the 'pound' approach where the response to foul taste is to 1. drink quickly and 2. chase with beer (or something else).

The typical college student approach to getting cheap beer is to buy in bulk (kegs). Generally, at a party, you drink what's available, or you don't drink. The imortal words about beer are: "I have two favorite kinds of beer: cold beer, and free beer."
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Date:November 13th, 2004 11:38 pm (UTC)

Re: Cheap Drinks


Is this UCSB Nate? If so, good to hear from you again! How've you been?
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Date:November 10th, 2004 09:41 am (UTC)
(1) As noted above, it's "I never..."

(2) Trader Joes sells an acceptible sake at $2.99, I think it's called Ganseikiban. As for cheep ass beer to drink, most of them have been mentioned. But remember that kegs get you more volume for your buck.

(3) I agree with elynne -- drink more beer; the whole essay will make more sense.

(4) Got me, don't know 'im.

(5) Sorry, the whole movie is a little too sappy to be moving at all.

(6) Only one? Ruth, Catcher in the Rye, MacBeth, Hamlet, Taming of the Shrew, Beowolf, 1984, 1985, This Perfect Day, Death of a Salesman, Poland to name a few.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 09:45 am (UTC)
2. Amaretto and coke/root beer/anything. Cheap-ass amaretto is just as good as the expensive stuff. And cheap-ass amaretto is cheaper than most cheap-ass things.

I haven't tried "green tea" with cheap vodka but it might be okay: kiwi-watermelon kool-aid made weakly (i.e. little powder, don't bother using water) with vodka, add 1/3 volume in apple juice.

Beer: Heineken, maybe. My taste in beer has always been expensive, and as such I drank little of it in college.

3. Semiotic framework sounds good to me. Brain too fried to look up examples. Poke around for holocaust historians?

6. Crime and Punishment. I got made fun of by most of my class for actually enjoying this.
Date:November 10th, 2004 01:16 pm (UTC)
I can give an alternate answer to 6:
-Tarzan, King of the Apes, by Edgar Rice Burroughs.
-Cyrano De Bergerac, to a degree.
-Something you're reading independant of school.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 02:57 pm (UTC)
Surely you jest? I'd be reading it right now if I weren't damnably behind on my own novel. Which is in part blameable on erroneous posts like these, naturally.

Can't say I know much about party games, drinking, religious pundits, or Jerry Maguire, but I actually enjoyed reading the inimitable Scarlet Letter. It's literature at its most condensed, I guess, since every word carries some heady literary meaning with it, it left my head churning after every paragraph, decrypting the syntax and interpreting the symbols or whatever. A workout. Or maybe I'm just a nutjob, but it sure beat out Uncle Tom's Cabin.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 04:33 pm (UTC)
Bloody Mary, with hot sauce. I actually like this, but the flavor of the juice and spice is such that what vodka you use basically doesn't matter.

Rum and Coke, or better yet rum with apple juice and cinnamon, work well with cheap rum. (Even better with Meyer's.)

Beer, beer, beer.. well. Back in that era I was told you should get Beck's rather than St. Pauli Girl because they were the same, and Beck's costs less. I don't know if that's still true. I also liked Linekeugel's and Killian's Red back then, haven't had them lately. Were Tecate or Dos Eques reasonably cheap back then? Mexican beer seems a suitably college thing.

A book I read in college and actually liked? Moby Dick. I found that it's actually a heck of a story, once you get beyond all that literature class mumbo-jumbo and just READ the silly thing.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 04:40 pm (UTC)
1. yep, "I Never". In which during one game I found out I was the only person in the room with A Past.
2. My suggestion would be either Heiniken or Corona but you can but those big oil cans of Fosters, which is ok - as far as beer goes. even at my brokest I never drank cheap alcohol so I'm no help there.
3. Dude!
5. There is the oft-cited "You Had Me At Hello" scene at the end of the movie but personally I like the bit where Cuba Gooding Jr takes a serious hit on the football field and you get to watch his wife die a thousand deaths in front of the TV in her living room waiting for him to move or something. But then I really like Cuba in that movie. Or you can watch my copy and make your own descion. It has a nice soundtrack.
6. "Lord of the Flies" - High school life on an island. Everybody had at least one character in that book they could relate to.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 07:23 pm (UTC)
6. "Lord of the Flies" - High school life on an island. Everybody had at least one character in that book they could relate to.

Yes, unfortunately, the one that had the most emotional resonance for me and most of the people I know kind of GOT STABBED TO DEATH IN A SAVAGE MOB ATTACK.

Don't mind me, I appreciate your answers, but that book just deeply scarred me. TWICE. (assigned it in 7th and 10 grades.)
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Date:November 10th, 2004 05:33 pm (UTC)
(6) Oh oh oh oh! I already said a book when we talked about it on AIM, but I just realised that I shoulda said "The Glass Menagerie." In my class we didn't actually read it, just a script version of it, or something stupid like that. But haunting symbols from that could probably be worked into what you're writing very gracefully if it has to be referred to more than once. I'm assuming that the unicorn-turned-horse could be useful in particular.
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Date:November 10th, 2004 06:25 pm (UTC)
in my class we didn't actually read it, just a script version of it

...you do realize that IT'S A PLAY and therefore a script-version of it is the only readable form, right?

I saw a performance of it as required by my Acting I class last semester, and it kicked so much tail. It helped that they had great actors, but it really is a lot better to see than to read. And it goes well to read...
Date:November 10th, 2004 08:08 pm (UTC)
3. What's the argument you want to drive at? Just that TV pundits' who are commenting on the events have had their interpretation shaped by the religion they adhere to (and all the vocabulary, conceptual frameworks and practices that go along with those)?
If so, talk about Foucault and discourse. If you want to, you can do find copies of some of his texts online.
Looking through my first-year sociology textbook chapter on religion, it describes Peter Berger and Thomas Luckmann as conceiving a "phenomenological theory" of religion, which seems to fit with the arguments you want to be making.
Also, http://www.religion-online.org/ is an archive of texts by recognised authors in the study of religion.

"Semiotic frameworks" might be useful. The aforementioned lit-crit major would be using whatever terminology s/he's comfortable with, depending on what s/he's come across and most likes in terms of the pantheon of theory. There's no official term for what you want to talk about -- it's not a science, where one theory overtakes another through rigorous proof.

Hope that helps.
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Date:November 12th, 2004 12:01 am (UTC)
Discussed earlier, but preserved for posterity:

> > Just that TV pundits' who are commenting on the events have had their interpretation shaped by the religion they adhere to (and all the vocabulary, conceptual frameworks and practices that go along with those)?

That the degree to which they go all end-of-the-worldy is predictable as a function of the linguistic and thought frameworks their religions build up, basically.
Date:November 11th, 2004 06:44 am (UTC)
6) Dune, Animal Farm, Brave New World.
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